Eating Peace Process Immersion with Grace

New Program Beings: May 1, 2019.

The Eating Peace Process is a course designed to unhook your mind from focus on food, weight, cravings, or what diet you’re on, over 3.5 months, without feeling anxious, eliminating all the foods you love, controlling your cravings, or starving to death.

In Eating Peace, we move from frustrated and despairing when it comes to eating, food and our bodies,….to feeling empowered, aware and joyful with eating, food and our bodies. We never thought this was possible, but it is. It’s happened to many of us!

Eating Peace is a course where we rediscover our innate ability for sanity and freedom when it comes to eating–we were born with this ability to eat in balance.

Where did it get lost?

If you’re overweight, over-eating, binge-eating, starving yourself, obsessing, hating your body, trying yet another food plan or diet (and either succeeding or failing) then you probably already know that diets don’t work permanently forever for the rest of your life, and something is really out of balance.

I’ll spare you the evidence. You’ve likely lived it. You’ve decided so many times to start eating like x diet–it worked for awhile–and then, discouragement. Or despair. You’ve made vows, you’ve said you’d never do it again, you become overwhelmed when in the presence of a huge buffet.

You probably already know that trying one more diet (the latest keto, or going vegan, or eliminating sugar entirely, or weighing all your food) will work for awhile, but that there are no guarantees for sanity and eating peace when you do any of these things. And no guarantee for permanent weight loss either.

You’ve probably also heard that the weight loss industry is worth roughly $66.3 billion US dollars, selling everything from diet pills to meal plans to fancy gym memberships. You no longer feel interested in following that pathway.

You’re also very likely aware that eating issues have to do with the inner emotional life.  Some of us can see the compulsion, the tension, and we know there are reasons we’re eating or thinking about food in ways we really don’t want to.  We’ve all heard the term “emotional eating”. We understand these days that eating issues fall into the compulsion/addiction category when they get really destructive.

But it really hasn’t been that long that we’ve become clearer on the links between tortured mental energy around food, eating and our weight and our overall psychology. The first clinical paper ever to have been written on bulimia, for example, was only in 1979. Binge eating disorder wasn’t even recognized as it’s own “disorder” in the Diagnostics and Statistics Manual until 2013!

Some of us with eating issues are overweight, some of us are underweight, some of us look “normal”–but most of us feel ugly and self-critical about our bodies and our minds feel anything but normal.  We feel horrible about the way we eat, and how we eat things. We’re eating with guilt, aggression, sneaking, rebelling, or being perfect and controlling.

Even though the motivation to overcome these inner eating wars is clear, the pathway to doing it is anything but. 

Years of therapy? Addiction treatment? Twelve step program? Meditation? Labotomy (little joke)? Martial arts? Mindfulness training?

We still need to eat. And we still need to look specifically at our emotional life, and our thinking, when it comes to eating, food, weight, body, relationships, boundaries, trauma, fear.

New Program Beings: May 1, 2019.

You can join from anywhere in the world, and do this program from the privacy of your own home.  You will learn foundational practices for eating peace, plus six modules on key topics to deprogram stressful belief systems and rebuild your self-love, understanding and confidence around eating.

There are 2 live calls every week (we take the last week of the month off) and a zoom call the third week of the month to share and ask questions, so there’s a huge amount of live contact and support available if you want it. There will also be facebook LIVE sessions every week during the program.

To learn more about the program itself and the sign-up process, scroll down. Program registration will begin in late April.


How could something so simple, pleasurable and necessary get so incredibly off-track, so that what to eat, when to eat, how to eat, where to eat…..all gets fraught with tension and stress, frustration and disappointment.

It seems there’s always too much food, or not enough food. Or the danger of either one. Never just right. Never free. Worried before eating, rebellious or anxious during eating, ashamed or frustrated after eating. Winding up feeling deprived, or guilty.

And that’s not even taking into consideration our bodies, and the anger about them not being “right” or weighing too much, or appearing ugly.

Solutions to address eating problems have existed for decades. Most of the solutions involve finding the right diet, and a priority on weight loss. The focus is on grabbing the bull by the horns, finding your willpower and discipline, and concentrating your efforts on tackling this “problem” full out.

Often there are menus, shopping lists,  measurements for portion sizes, and a concentration on measuring, data, weighing and memorizing what you’re allowed or not allowed to eat.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Controlling the intake of food, and examining the contents of the food itself, is a fascinating and amazing study.

But most of us are experts at nutrition and dieting! And yet, still tortured by eating….we know what “should” or “shouldn’t” be eaten, but we find the cravings and emotional experience overwhelming when it comes to sticking with a diet or food plan.

Eating peace, I never found, focuses on the diet.

Diets generally live in the realm of control and adding knowledge and documentation to each day, each meal, and each bite. It meant I could not be trusted to eat freely, so I needed structure and rules.

And it seemed like I couldn’t trust myself! I never knew what would happen if I walked into a room with a table covered with food! All hell could break loose!

However, treating myself like someone who needed shackles and a leg bracelet that would beep if I went into a fast food joint was so sad, and something seemed off about it. Was this really the solution? Was I really simply unable to cope in certain situations without eating?

Was it true that if I took one bite of sugar, I’d keep eating from one end of town to the other, inhaling all the sugar in sight? Was it true that certain foods would forever freak me out? Was it really true I was unable to trust I could be in a room with loads of delicious food without obsessing about it, wanting it, and consuming it against my best interest?

Even in my twenties when I was filled with suffering about eating and body, I knew something else was going on, and I truly wanted to understand WHAT? I wanted to experience NOT having the compulsion to eat, or starve, or manage food and my body, or exercise when I didn’t feel like it. I knew my natural state was not to need to force myself to do what felt kind, healthy and balanced. This “disordered”eating thing I knew was somehow learned, or adopted. I was not born that way. I knew it. Neither were you.

The Eating Peace Process is a program of learning, awareness and deep practice in self-inquiry, so that we can access our true balanced relationship with eating.

It is your privilege and birthright to be in the world at a natural, right-sized body, freely enjoying the taste of food and not fearing it. In the Eating Peace Method, we’re lightening our thoughts and hearts, so our bodies and relationship with food follows.

You can do this, with the tools we use. It doesn’t matter if you’ve felt mild concern with food and eating, and a constant need to lose ten pounds, or an intense rigidity around maintaining a thin physique…..

…..or if you’ve felt completely insane when it comes to food, like I did.

I once saw a video somewhere long ago, where one person I admired in the art scene was in a green room with others for a little pre-show fun and conversation, all being video recorded. There was something sweet on a large plate–either cupcakes or special cakes with elaborate designs, apparently expensive desserts shared with this group of entertainers.

One young man saw the plate and proceeded to ask the others in the room who wanted to save one for later, because he needed to do something with the plate so he wouldn’t start consuming it with a vengeance. People looked at him curiously, or made little jokes knowingly. Some took a treat and placed it near them. He asked one more time “does everyone have a cake who wants one?!”

Then, he reached beneath a cabinet in the room, took out some kind of cleaning fluid, and sprayed the entire plate of the remaining beautiful treats with poisonous cleaning fluid, used to clean bathrooms. “Now, I won’t eat them all later!” he exclaimed.

I shook my head, remembering that kind of relationship to food and eating, and the sadness of it all. Treating a beautifully created morsel of food as dangerous, enticing, evil. It was seeing the food as if it held so much power, the power to cause him to hurt himself with the eating of it. A battle with an adversary in the world.

When I saw that video, it had been many years since I had binge-eaten, or obsessed about plates of food like they were the enemy, and something to “fight” or wrestle with. But I still remembered the torture of feeling like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde when it came to eating. I understood what that young man was doing when he sprayed the beautiful cakes with cleaning fluid.

I also did NOT want to live like that, ever again.

Violence, counting, control and willpower is often the only thing we consider will ultimately work, when we’ve been suffering with food.

But there is another way.

It requires energy and “work”, but it’s an investigative work, not a laboring drudgery work or a forceful work, as so often offered in solutions to eating woes.

Instead, our intention is to bring peace to this troubled situation with eating. To understand, relax, and feel clear about what is, and is not, required for happiness. Our desire is to find our own inner “no” to being off-balance with food and eating, not an outside “no”.

Our Eating Peace Method is a path is to regain power, instead of feeling powerless when it comes to food. To work with our fear in a way that brings true safety and self-respect. And to be with emptiness or boredom by discovering satisfaction, fulfillment and joy.

It’s a method of permanent healing and change through un-training, un-doing, un-conditioning yourself. Not an instant fix. You already know a magic fix doesn’t exist, right? You’ve tried many (often in the form of diet and exercise plans), and they’ve lasted only temporarily.

A process or method is a series of steps and actions taken over time that add, enhance, shed light, offer discovery, and give you clear resources for ending the imbalanced and agonizing experience you’ve had with eating.

The Eating Peace Method is really a way of life. It’s a practice of uncovering hidden agendas, hidden fears, and the places we feel conflicted.

You might be wondering… Or maybe you’re thinking…’s a lot of analysis and emotional work. Won’t that take too long? If I have to understand my hidden motives, agendas, beliefs and fears…..will it be like therapy? I’ll have to endlessly recount the past, my wounding, my emotional baggage.

Ugh! I’ve done that enough already! Is that what we’re doing?

No, and yes. We’ll capture some experiences from the past to review with inquiry, and we’ll also be focused on presence in this moment, now.

While we are indeed observing where we feel powerless, empty, afraid and dissatisfied in our lives, we don’t have to get it all figured out and feel elated all the time in order to be free from this concern about eating. That would be equally as difficult an expectation as controlling our diet forever for the rest of our lives.

There’s a place of balance. Emotional bliss or happiness is not required for peaceful eating. Understanding EVERYTHING about our inner world is also not required for peaceful eating. Eating peace can exist even if you feel sad, upset, hurt, or frightened in your life. If there’s a storm, or a fire, or an earthquake….you don’t usually eat immediately. You don’t have to eat for any other personal stormy reason, either.

It becomes easy to simply enjoy food, whatever kinds of food you eat or don’t eat. Acceptance and open hands becomes the approach, not defending and closed fists.

The very first place we start, in the Eating Peace Process, is to meet ourselves and our thoughts with understanding. It’s like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. We start with the first step on a journey along the yellow brick road.

In our first two weeks of the eating peace process, we’ll learn and practice foundational principles that help us live, think, feel and act differently with food and eating. You’ll add a few simple practices to your life such as silence (five minutes of meditation if you’ve never done it before) and you’ll identify your inner wise guide and your most beautiful heavenly day when it comes to food.

Then in Module One, you get to start the eating peace process by beginning to Break the Spells we’ve endured that’s caught us in this difficult cycle.

You’ll be writing your answers to a very important exercises that help you consider and wonder about your eating behavior. Rather than immediately thinking the way you are with food is horrible and unworkable….you’re going to look again, with broader, wider eyes. We track first, to see What Is.

In Eating Peace, we’re investigators. You’ll see where you feel most upset with food in your day to day life. You are the one person who knows you the best. You have amazing and powerful information about YOU within, that no one else has. Now we need to get that information out, and down on paper. If you’re willing to write, consider, contemplate, wonder about reality and you, then you can do this work.

What people find who participate in the Eating Peace Method and Process, is they become fascinated with their thinking, feeling and actions and what’s going on when it comes to food, in a good way (not the old mean-spirited argumentative, depressing way). When we really “get” who we are and what we’ve been fighting or feeling, the arguments can end.

In the Eating Peace Method, you will find out the connection between your mind, your feelings and your eating behavior. What I discovered, is my thoughts drove me to eat the way I did. My thoughts and beliefs were off-balance, so my eating was off-balance, and so was my body. My feelings were the only thing I was aware of, not my actual thinking. They were a jumbled mess–reactions to my thoughts. All I felt was a fog of confusion.

This is a process to cut through the fog and confusion, and feel clarity.

You can discover awareness and freedom over time, step by step, by taking this wonderful (sometimes difficult) journey into eating peace. The key for me was to be willing to sit with that jumbled fog of confusion, and the difficult feelings, and give them words so they could finally communicate, rather than wishing it would all just go away.

Eating Peace is all about Thinking Peace, Feeling Peace. Thinking peace, when it comes to food, eating and the body, manifests as eating peace. No matter what you’ve experienced, or how many years you’ve been in thinking wars and feeling wars when it comes to eating and your body….you can find peace. I know it.

One of the primary tools we use in Eating Peace, besides concentrated writing exercises to understand your thinking and eating behaviors, is the self-inquiry method called The Work of Byron Katie.

The Work is a way to question what you believe so it no longer runs your life (and your eating). It takes some “work”. You’ll need to be willing to answer some powerful exploratory questions. But I’ll be guiding you every step of the way, and you’ll have a group to share this experience with. Together, we can do it. We can follow the trail of eating peace.

So what does the Eating Peace Method look like? How much time is involved? How does it work on a practical level?

The Eating Peace Process Immersion is initially a program designed to address, create and foster inner conditions of peace. Your peace. A peace so unshakable, that even if you felt concern about some area of your life… wouldn’t consider eating over it.

You’ll have ongoing access to webinars and lessons, and then additional live regular check-in group calls.

You’ll have access to each new version of the program once you’ve taken it once, for life.

Here’s what’s included in the Eating Peace Process. It’s thorough, it’s crafted together to address all the stressful ways of thinking that create off-balance eating. It helps us question and change at the fundamental level of our inner perceptions and beliefs that drive weird eating, and it works.

  • Foundational Principles for Eating Peace (7 lessons) plus Six Modules including: 1) Breaking the Spell of Eating Wars, 2) Feelings and Eating, 3) Discovering True Satisfaction From Emptiness, 4) Moving From Trauma to Triumph in Our Minds and Regaining Power (a supportive kind), 5) Resetting Body Image and Calling a Cease-Fire on Attacking Bodies, and 6) Living in The Yum Zone–Eating Peace Process continued.
  • In each module there are recorded webinar presentations on important aspects of eating peace. One module, with all its 5-6 lessons, will take you time to complete. You can view every lesson in each module as many times as needed in our special eating peace process membership site. Each module has a focus for 2 weeks as a group, then we move to the next.
  • audio-only calls on Tuesdays and Thursdays twice each month PLUS one zoom video conference call in week #3 (once on Tuesday, once on Thursday) for Q&A and inquiry and coaching.
  • a private membership forum where everyone can connect
  • paired partnering with other members of the group to create community, support and sharing with others at a deep level

Here’s exactly how the program works:

You’ll receive instant access to this powerful and comprehensive signature program after you sign up.

My personal goal is to help you achieve peace with food for the long-long-long term, and be finished with dieting, harsh food plans, weighing and measuring when it doesn’t serve you, and self-criticism….or firmly know you’re on the road to achieving this.

Eating Peace Method Program Blueprint:

Foundation, Introduction and Overview of entire course. You’ll have a map of the program. We’ll pull out the x-ray vision, so you can see what’s really happening more clearly at your core, and what drives your off-balance eating. You’ll be given the tools to use for the entire program, as a basis for a supportive life with eating, and really, with being a human with a creative mind.

SPELL BREAKING. We look at the order of creation, as written in many theoretical and philosophical observations about human behavior: Think – Feel – Act – Have. We start with the mind, the center of “thinking” to see where and how we need to think differently, in order to be happy with eating. We question our stories.

  • Assessment. What’s going on? Let’s observe, without judgment, what we do that’s not working. You’ll create an Awareness Map of your eating.
  • Making friends with Thinking and Imagination. What happens when you get hungry? What happens when you get full? What’s going on in your mind and thoughts? Dissolving the Sin-Guilt-Punishment Cycle. How can we use imagination for peace instead of war? Find out here.
  • The most common beliefs running when it comes to food and eating. Stopping the habits of self-defense and closing. Avoiding pain and chasing pleasure, and how that fits into food and eating disturbances.
  • Exploring your immunity to change, or what’s holding you back (often unconsciously). We learn what we’re most afraid of that prevents true change.

UNDERSTANDING DIFFICULT FEELINGS AND HOW THEY MAKE US OBSESS: We’ve all heard of emotional eating. We know what it is. But how do we interrupt it, or do our work so we find something even better than eating: feeling our feelings completely.

  • Feel more, eat less
  • learning emotional regulation
  • growing our distress tolerance
  • understanding relating to others

DISCOVERING SATISFACTION.  Here, we’re looking at lack of satisfaction and safety, and how to find it in our lives without self-criticism or demanding willpower.

  • Feeling hunger and fullness, experiencing your diet your way, beliefs about nutrition and body, really committing to your own eating peace process food plan, whatever it looks like (and it must include the hunger-fullness scale). You’ll learn the most important part of the eating peace process awareness of food and eating: feeling your hunger and fullness.
  • Our food plan/way of eating: Becoming very clear about the Eating Peace experience with food and eating so you feel it in your body
  • Saying No and how trouble with saying NO to people, requests, invitations, choices fits into food and eating troubles.

TRAUMA TO TRIUMPH. As we explore trauma, beliefs from the past, difficulties…we’ll look at three key feelings that fuel eating anxiety: Powerless, Afraid and Empty/Lonely. You’ll work with your Fairy Godmother, Wise Guide or Compassionate Advisor. Grace will give you the medicine (practices) she’s used over time, to create health and healing around food.

  • What is powerlessness and how do we work with it or notice it? We begin to gather our personal medicine bundle. Understanding masculine and feminine energies when it comes to food and eating.
  • What is being empty? Focus on Feeling-ness (which is bigger in many ways than Mindfulness), Deficiency and Grasping when it comes to eating patterns. We’ll look at Rejecting or Bolting–two of the biggest reactions around food, and the emptiness of boredom.
  • What are we afraid of? How do we work with the feeling of fear, in any form whatsoever (very small worry to full-blown terror)? How can our Inner Mentor or Fairy Godmother help with this? Accessing kindness, self-care and pleasure to support our freedom with food and eating. Exposing the fears bring awareness, and we can make a plan for how to handle them, without willpower, without deprivation.

BODY ATTACK CEASE-FIRE.  We look in this  Module at physical sensation, fullness and hunger, weight and judgment, and ACTION. In module four, our lessons include:

  • Leaving Weight-Hate, Mirror Work in depth. You will have an exercise to work with your reflection in the mirror, and really “see” what the truth is for you.
  • Observing, Looking at Data, moving from where you are to where you want to be, with ease.
  • Understanding judgments from others about body image, and the culture we come from, and how to become free AND accepting of it all at the same time. You can want to lose weight, and take action for change.

TRANSFORMATION. Your Eating Peace Practice….Living In The YUM Zone. Unconditional Love and Transformation. We investigate what “Doing Nothing” means and how to use this rested approach further in food and eating. Simplicity, Patience, Compassion—the three things we need to work with anything, according to the Tao Te Ching. Source and Center–how to stay in the middle which is our practice. Observation as a spiritual path. You will create your own map again, your own guidance, for where to go from here, and continue your transformation into permanent eating peace.

  • Self-Compassion: daily practice – your own Eating Peace map to use.
  • Silence and the Wisdom of Doing Nothing. Can we go limp when having a worry, a craving, a concern? What can we trust? How do we keep this simple? Journaling, support team, The Work as a way of life.
  • Your Vision of Peace. Can we stay with the mystery of this work, and be patient with ourselves? Yes, it is possible. You’ll know what to do if you get off track, and how to treat an off-balance moment with welcome.
  • Expanding your life: See where to explore that has nothing to do with food or eating that satisfies you (based on Artists’ Way)
  • Living Your Turnarounds: Clearly working with the new images, words, feelings you find as you’ve questioned your thinking.

Frequently asked questions:

How much time will this take? It’s recommended that you find and schedule at least 1 hour per week of time to listen, watch and do the exercises on your own. In addition to this time, pick a live 60 minute telecall each week to attend (you can listen to these as recordings if the timing doesn’t work for you).

I recommend scheduling your lesson consumption time each week–you can do it on a weekend, weeknight, week day….any time that works for you. All the lessons are recorded and ready for you. They are created to be short, lazer sharp, and focused on one point at a time.

When will I stop eating or change the way I eat?

When you begin the program, you won’t instantly be given a diet, or a way of eating. We WILL however address food plans and eating. You will need to consider, with the help of the eating peace approach, what works for you with loving kindness as a way of eating. You will intend lovingly to this way of eating for the program and to the deepest kindness you can find within, as your peaceful approach. Yes, there will be options for reassessing and upgrading your personal plan, as long as it’s conscious and not out of panic, rage, rebellion or self-hatred.

Then, the first thing we need to do is understand what’s going on when we begin to eat, or binge, to identify the thoughts in the mind we believe, and question them.

One giant lie I used to tell myself is “I have to eat”. I had this thought when not hungry, when upset, when overwhelmed, when I saw something delicious looking, when I felt lonely.

We begin to look at the top thoughts, like this one, inside Module One: Breaking The Spell, and to question them and turn them around, using The Work of Byron Katie. Who would we be without our stories or lies about eating? I know now “I do NOT have to eat.” You can discover you don’t have to either. I am here in the program to support you questioning this kind of powerful but very stressful lie about eating food.

Can I participate from Europe or in another time zone? When are the live calls?

You can participate from anywhere. The sessions are accessible for free through the internet. Exact dates of live inquiry sessions–all times are Pacific Time:

  • Tuesdays 5:00-6:00 PT
  • Thursdays 9:00-10:00 PT
  • Eating Peace Process begins again January 22, 2020
  • Annual Eating Peace Retreat is every year in January in Seattle, WA. Come if you can.

What if I have a food plan I prefer to follow?

This work is about your own comfort, awareness and care for yourself. If you have a plan that works for you, please bring it to your work in eating peace. Some people feel more comfortable with a structured food plan–if this is you, wonderful. There is no reason to drop this plan by participating in Eating Peace. I even encourage you to have a plan if you feel safer and clearer with one, for now.

Refund or cancellation policy:

Please cancel within one week if you are unable to participate for any reason (less $100 administrative fee). This program is very high touch and you are signing up for live groups, course content, partner work with others, and regular access to Grace through email and our private forum. Everyone has access for life, so that if you miss any of the material, you will have it recorded for watching at any time. For the May 2019 program you must write to Grace by 8:00 pm Pacific Time on May 12th to withdraw.

Sign up for the Eating Peace Process and remain a member for life. You can re-join any year, any time, for no additional fee. It’s lifetime access as long as I’m in business:

  • $997 pay in full click HERE.
  • $97 to start now, and receive a monthly invoice for 12 months in total ($97 every month), click HERE. This is whether you are actively participating or not (the program shifts focus during some breaks between live calls). The payment plan option is made for those who cannot pay in full at the beginning. This is not a subscription type program–all 12 payments will be due. And then, you’re “in” for life.

Eating Peace Retreat in person in Seattle is January 15-20, 2020 and offered separately from online Eating Peace program–however, those who enroll in both receive $100 off the full fee for the retreat. Retreat begins Weds evening and ends Monday morning 1/20 (a US holiday). You will see the special discount option to add this retreat when you sign up for Eating Peace Process.

To register for Eating Peace Method Immersion, a comprehensive deep immersion in online thinking, feeling and eating freedom, click your choice of links below to enroll.

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Praise for Eating Peace Online:

I like this format a lot, the presentation, which I like to watch and hear via the recording so I can pause it. And then the interactive work on live calls. Also, this particular subject, with its emphasis on feelings, seems to be particularly “opening” for me. With gratitude! 

Thank you Grace! The format was great. I liked seeing the slides and I enjoyed typing responses more than speaking them out loud. I also enjoyed hearing the beautiful ways that people wrote their own responses. I also like how you summed up the techniques we already have been given at the end… it makes me feel more organized and less confused. 

In this program, I never lost interest, there was never anything that did not feel like it didn’t apply to me in some way. Some things really stuck for me, like the Stop/Go dialogue and the emphasis on using imagination – who would I be? I love one weekly gathering where we don’t talk. I SO appreciate this topic – this is so huge for me and I’m so glad you gave this class. I would take the entire 12 weeks again!

Grace is like the fairy godmother who is objectively and lovingly looking at what’s going on in behavior, thoughts and feelings. The content of the class felt comprehensive and well thought out. I would certainly recommend the course. Thank you.

Thank you for the wonderful writing and videos. I had a big breakthrough that came after watching a few of your videos again. I’ve realized that what’s been happening for me since the EPP course ended is that my inner mentor has been coming forward more and is now ready to be fully in charge….It’s been powerful for me to see that this is ME and not an external character….It’s so clear now. I feel an indescribable peace.

Grace, you have a REMARKABLE ability to embrace anything that comes into our Work, and weave it in. I love your light-hearted but serious style, and that you can tell your own stories. Looking back at what I wanted to get out of the program, I can say that I got a lot more than I imagined. Thanks, so much.